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Many QRs see epistemological humility as a lack of faith or simply down-right relativistic and heretical. As Glenn hints at (and Michael very plainly says), there is significant irony in this idea. QRs claim to ascribe to the total depravity of man, yet somehow believe that they can totally understand all truth on this side of heaven. In a sense, QRs are even exalting themselves to be (at least) equal with God.
I was all with you, Brendt, until that little bit. I see where you’re going, and I can follow you there to some degree…
However:
I think the thing that gets my bile a boilin’ is the stark tendency of some to be ‘epistemologically humble’ where God’s word is clear. Don’t get me wrong, there’s a lot I don’t know and I’m personally quite happy to stop at the edge of the cliff of my own ignorance.
The problem is that there are some people who seem to exalt the idea of ‘uncertainty’ and, as a result, apply that lens to things that should be pretty plain.
Take the whole Emergent/Emerging/Emergenerating/etc thing… I’m all for diving deep and questioning the dominant paradigms*, but there are some things that shouldn’t be open for debate. For example, the deity of Christ better be foundational - otherwise you’re treading into something altogether different than Christianity.
There’s plenty that escapes our weak intellects, and we should be honest with ourselves about that. But being uncertain where God has been definitively clear isn’t humility anymore, it’s heresy.
I’m absolutely certain we agree on that… But I like to hear myself talk. Usually I manage to restrict it to my own blog, but sometimes I am weak and overpowered.
Dluxe
*Heh… In my head, I was thinking of ‘orthodox/prax’ Christianity as being the so-called “dominant paradigm”. On further reflection, I imagine that’s not really the case, eh?
If I ever write a book, I know who I’m gonna ask to be my editor. You often help me clarify things, especially when I go off on a rant.
I agree that a lot of the questions in emerginess wind up being based on stuff that’s abundantly clear in Scripture (and therefore, doesn’t need to be questioned). But QRs (in my experience) see any epistemological humility as heretical. I would even contend that many QRs are more upset by the mere existence of the emergophonic questions than their content.
P.S. I’m glad that you were “weak and overpowered”. Comments mean that someone’s reading. ![]()
Hey, we all gotta draw the line somewhere. For me, it’s not doing too much watch-watch-blogging and not naming names, when concepts will do (another popular sport among QRs).
But QRs (in my experience) see any epistemological humility as heretical. I would even contend that many QRs are more upset by the mere existence of the emergophonic questions than their content.
Yep… I’m with you there. It’s a question of presumptions: Emergent-ys sometimes say truth can’t be known, so why try. The ‘QRs’ say truth is absolute so uncertainty is unacceptable.
The reasoned, and I think correct, middle ground is that the truth is absolute and would be clear but for our sinfulness. There’s going to be a lot we struggle to get, but we can keep leaning on the Holy Spirit to bring it to light.
I’m down with that…
Commeting is one thing — but writing better than me on my own blog?!?! ![]()
Commeting is one thing ? but writing better than me on my own blog?!?!
Puh-lease. I have the grammatical mojo of a 2nd grader, and an intellect that’s stuck in middle school. Besides, you’re the one who wrote the post… I’m just responding.
It’s easy to sound intelligent when you parrot (with slight nuances) a smarter person’s argument. Also, nodding at key moments with a furrowed-brow, thoughtful look on your face is critical to looking smarter than you are.
I’m just keep up appearances… But I am a pretender to the throne.
To borrow from Dave Barry, I think Grammatical Mojo would be a great name for a rock band.

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